15 Apr

Red Dawn remake script review.

Posted by Bryan White | Wednesday April 15, 2009 | News

I was under the impression that the remake of Red Dawn that was going around a few months ago was dead in the water.  Hollywood has a habit of starting more projects than it finishes and if it hits a road block, it moves on to lower hanging fruit because time is money, right?



Well here’s an update. Latino Review has a script review of Carl Ellsworth’s latest draft and answers a bunch of my questions. All along, since the inception of this project, I haven’t felt as though anyone in the world has been nearly as frightening as the Soviet Union was in the 1980′s. I realize how badly I’m dating myself at this moment, but I remember that period of time pretty well and it was not inconceivable that a war could erupt as a result of Cold War relations. Red Dawn was improbable, yes, but for a kid in the 80′s it spoke volumes. There isn’t a Cold War any more and there isn’t a state on Earth that poses a real threat to anyone. According to Latino Review, the enemy in Ellsworth’s script is the Chinese, later aided by Russia and relations in that corner of the world are becoming slightly strained, but there is no indication now that China would have any reason to invade. They’re buying property here now! I’m probably thinking about this too much. So just watch the video so that you know what to expect. It sounds like it’ll be a killer action movie and follows the original with a few casting alterations. I know a lot of you are rolling your eyes at the very thought of this remake, but I’m willing to give it a fair shake. It’s being directed by Dan Bradley who ran second unit on Quantum of Solace and Bourne Ultimatum, a pair of kick ass action flicks, so it’s a strong possibility we’ll get a lot of that good stuff.

76 Comments 

  1. April 15, 2009 5:27 pm

    Michael Allen

    This was funny “…the North Koreans would have been more plausible.” I would be surprised if the North Koreans could get a Sai Pan full of squirt guns off the coast without the South Koreans blowing the contents up, or the Japanese, or the Americans. China was the best way to go.
    -Mike

  2. April 16, 2009 11:16 pm

    Rich

    When I saw this I instantly scoffed. But then as I think about it, why the hell not?
    The original is excellent but I can see this being good if done right.

  3. May 24, 2009 2:30 pm

    BARRY

    I like Benology’s idea better http://reddawnrebellion.com/

    Red Dawn’s gonna suck

  4. May 24, 2009 3:33 pm

    Daniel

    China?….. you have got to be kidding me. They are going to ruin Red Dawn. It’s about the Soviets invading America, not China. They should have made Freedom Fighters into a movie instead.

  5. May 29, 2009 9:38 pm

    Aunt Jemima

    I have a better idea. Why don’t they make Red Dawn about the illegal alien invasion from Mexico and how Americans get pissed off and start shooting invaders?

  6. May 30, 2009 12:17 am

    Bryan White

    That’s fucking retarded.

  7. May 30, 2009 7:55 pm

    Shane

    The only reason Red Dawn worked was because you could believe that the Russians and Cubans could actually attempt something like that. Even though the underlying strategic benefit of taking over middle of nowhere America never made sense the movie itself was well cast, well directed, and actually kind of nice for the whole “America, Fuck Ya!” culture.

    Chinese attacking America? They’d rather sell us 80% of our consumer goods.

  8. June 3, 2009 8:53 pm

    Jason

    CHINA attacks America.. it would work…at least on film…
    CHINA has the largest standing armed forces in the world.
    and they are well armed and well trained.(NOT LIKE IRAQ)
    CHINAS air force and navy are also no slouch.
    CHINA has nuclear missles .
    CHINA Is the real reason the US and its allies do not
    invade North Korea. CHINA has more sway on what goes
    in North and South Korea that people realize.
    CHINA is also working on expanding it’s NAVAL FORCES.
    More Subs, destroyers, and soon Aircraft Carriers.
    CHINA’s military could fight both the US and the Russians.
    Some say no way, but if it’s a conventional war CHINA’s numbers
    would be unlike anything the US and Russian armed forces have ever faced. The Chinese would overun them. So needless to say the war would go nuclear, in which case no one wins. KA-BOOM. CHINA Is a military and economic powerhouse that will continue to grow. The US should keep a watchful eye on CHINA at all times.

  9. June 6, 2009 3:12 pm

    Brad

    Jason…you’re an idiot. “CHINA’s numbers would be unlike anything the US and Russian armed forces have ever faced. The Chinese would overun them.” That might be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard!

  10. June 6, 2009 4:35 pm

    Bill Hawkins

    The siuation in the 1980s made RED DAWN conceivable, but it would have been difficutl for the Soviets, even with troops from Latin America, to send enough soldiers to overrun the U.S. (and Canada). However, the Chinese do have the population base, if mobilized, to field an army large enough to support global invasions (if they could get across the oceans). They do have a billion more people than we do! And thanks to their one-child policy, China has a large “surplus” of males. It reminds one of the old Sci-fi movie MARS NEEDS WOMEN. China has stated that its aim is to become the world’s largest shipbuilder. Improbable, yes, but there could be a scenario plausible enough for an action flick. I just saw RED DAWN recently, and it is the human story that carries the action, and if they get that right, the backstory is secondary.

  11. June 17, 2009 1:35 pm

    Red What?

    Funny, considering in the original, China was an ally of the US as detailed by Tanner when they were sitting around the campfire…

  12. June 17, 2009 2:36 pm

    Kyle

    There is no reason to remake this movie……..the best 80′s movie.

    What is the point of remaking it at all? It meant something back then, we did not know the Russians were incompetent there was an Iron curtian.

    It’s just sad, it is like repainting famous art work, or making a new Indiana Jones, it just pisses on the memory of the original.

  13. June 20, 2009 12:22 pm

    Ddog

    I would love to see this movie remade.
    A case for current day chinese invasion could be made considering some of the things that have been going on over the last decade. China routinley has hacked into our Defense Dept and just in the last few days a news story came out and it believed that our energy grid has been hacked into 20 or 30 times. The belief is that they have dropped snippets of harmless code all over the place and that when directed or at some specific time when activated it will or could come together and literally shut us down. No electricity, No internet, No television.
    Also consider this, since they have hacked into the pentagon so many times already, could it be possible to infect our satelites and radar effectivley making us blind to anything coming? This would be great if this what they are planning. They could then use current actual news footage and newspaper copy.

    MY BIG CONCERN……If they make this movie with a message that somehow this all Americas fault since our lovley president is running around the world making statements to that effect.

  14. July 2, 2009 6:16 pm

    malavai

    Can we stop with the remakes?
    If they want a good war movie, how about making Red Storm Rising into a movie.
    Or maybe Warbirds, which is set in the Persian Gulf and involves an Iranian invasion

  15. July 15, 2009 5:48 pm

    Pyro

    This will be interesting.

    I just wonder how slow they expect it will take the Americans to notice fleets of a Chinese invasion force making their way from China to America through the Pacific. In real life they wouldn’t make it half way without being noticed by satellites, communications from other vessels, U.S. and other foreign submarines and ships. You’d need a lot of EMPs, though other countries like Israel, Australia, U.K, India, etc… would pass down intelligence of any movements. A Chinese invasion from the Ocean and Seas would be the equivalent to ducks in a barrel, you’d have more than enough time to take them all out with missiles and nukes. Especially using nukes on a swarm of Chinese Invaders, then having time to nuke China with ICBMs. Sure, Russia can start launching their ICBMs, but it would be pointless, might as well be putting the finger on a self destruct button since an all out nuclear war with the U.S. and Russia would leave no winners standing between the two, even covering the rest of the world with Chernobyl Radiation to kill of the rest of Mankind or even mutating them into nonhuman diseased beings with multiple limbs and shit. “On the beach” meets “The Chrysalids”.

  16. August 10, 2009 11:28 am

    noelle

    The remaking of Red Dawn is going to be filming in Mt. Clemens, MI on Kendrick St. They are starting set up as I write this.

  17. August 10, 2009 9:18 pm

    LFC

    Filming in MI? WTF?

    I have been foresaken. The greatest film of all time gets a makeover with hot chicks and bad @ss Marine. Please, make this real as you can imagine. All Marines claim they are Force Recon and really are nothing but generator mechanics. At least make the script plausible. The original had it right, why not stick to it? Please Hollywood, you need some talent. Contact a good ole boy and find out the real deal. Hey why not put Marky Mark in there as well! He can play Nelson’s part as the downed pilot. Yeah, a real hot shot pilot who talks like he’s from the Bronx.

    Why can’t we have a bunch of Texans fighting off the real invaders? How about a AC-130 Spectre or Spookie lighting up the sky at night? Guarantee that would solve some issues.

    Please all you idiots out there, yes you too the one who is scrolling with the made in China mouse, do the world a favor and kill yourself.

    The horror! The horror!

  18. August 10, 2009 10:16 pm

    Bryan White

    Dear gun nuts and military fetishists,

    Please do your best to refrain from shitting up my comments with your outrage. I realize that to you, this movie is a testament to the second amendment but to the rest of us it was a fun and completely absurd action movie. You’ve come to a website where the bulk of the writing has been devoted to horror movies, the one genre that gets the remake treatment more than others. We have learned to live with our sacred cows being watered down and reheated with inferior scripts and talentless casts and crews. You will, too.

    Besides, how does a multi-racial cast (which seems to frighten you all the most) and a preposterous set up change the original movie? You can still pop in the Milius flick any time you want and it’ll still be the same old movie. And to those of you bemoaning a pretty, young cast, you dicks forget that the big stars of the original were Charlie Fucking Sheen and Patrick Fucking Swayze.

    So cool it. Go jerk off over your copies of The Turner Diaries.

  19. August 11, 2009 2:43 am

    Mark

    I’ll try not to shit up your comments, but I am really tired of remakes of pre-PC movies that are redrawn in PC tones. The Manchurian Candidate goes from a post-Korean War plot to infiltrate the American government to a home-grown corporate plot (there are now no worse boogie men than corporate executives), The Day The Earth Stood Still is morphed from a scenario where aliens were peacefully trying to stop humans from taking their nuclear aggression to the stars to an enviro-kook’s wet dream where humans are mercilessly punished for perceived harm to their own planet, etc. Enough. The trend here is to raid the classics for ideas, and then to clumsily inject modern sensibilities into them as a sop to the causes of the day. This is lazy, annoying, and disrespectful of the source material.

    So the fear here is that a new Red Dawn will no longer be a good v. evil slug fest between a belligerent Red Army and a patriotic resistance, but some sort of it’s-our-fault-Halliburton-started-it meditation on the racial undertones of battling Chinese peacekeepers or some such. I’m neither a gun nut nor a military fetishist, but I do enjoy a simple actioner unhindered by post-modern navel gazing (see: Taken), and I’m afraid that a Red Dawn remake will follow the sad pattern of recent remakes. Like you say, though, I don’t have to watch it. Best case, I’m wrong, and it’s excellent.

  20. August 11, 2009 3:16 am

    Raoul

    The only thing the ChiComs are invading with are the $5 plastic shoes and $25 microwaves at Walmart. If a new Red Dawn was worth anything it would be about the invasion of Mexicans. As long as Americans are just gonna stand around with their thumbs up their asses in the face of invasion, I’d rather be invaded by Russians, but that’s just me.

  21. August 11, 2009 3:43 am

    raoul

    Yeah! All you gun nut rednecks should listen to Bryan! The new Red Dawn will be just like the Mod Squad, only better! Like Starsky and Hutch for a new century! Like Starsky, Hutch, Shaqill and Armando!

    Doubt the wonderfulness of multi racial multi culturalism? Fool! Don’t you remember Yugoslavia? The Kashmir! “Palestine”. What about Rwanda?

    Lets all hold hands and sing; “We are the World, We are the Chillrens”!

  22. August 11, 2009 9:19 am

    Ouch

    ..there isn’t a state on Earth that poses a real threat to anyone.
    The US poses an existential threat to numerous countries in every part of the globe.

  23. August 11, 2009 1:48 pm

    Raoul

    To ‘ouch”;

    The U.S. poses an exetential threat? To whom? The French? Will we invade France for the purpose of confiscating the works of Jean Paul Sarte? Are you. “existentially speaking”, a fugging moron?

  24. August 11, 2009 3:42 pm

    Another Luke

    If you really wanted to remake Red Dawn, you would want to set it someplace where it is plausible that teenagers would rally themselves into a small guerrila force and take up arms to defend their homeland from a massive foreign invading force with superior numbers and technology, etc., that kills or imprisons their dads/brothers/families?

    Let’s think about that for a minute… and then question whether Red Dawn’s lead characters should really be American teenagers this time around.

    Wouldn’t this work a lot better and be more relevant to current events if this new movie were set in Iraq?

  25. August 11, 2009 4:32 pm

    NotOuch

    Ouch – Go read your history and grow a set would ya, please (see, said respectfully).

    The US was THE check against existential threats. You probably don’t remember and can only see through a tiny lens that makes you believe the US is the bad guys.

    (Are you my brother?)

  26. August 11, 2009 4:33 pm

    NotOuch

    PS – thanks for the heads up on the movie

  27. August 11, 2009 7:01 pm

    “The invading armies planned for everything – except for eight kids called the Wolverines.” — david harsanyi

    [...] it about time someone produced a remake of Red Dawn? In this somewhat (convoluted) new version, the Chinese will be invading the United [...]

  28. August 12, 2009 12:27 pm

    UltimaRatioRegis

    “there isn’t a state on Earth that poses a real threat to anyone”.
    Bet you might see things a bit differently, if you picked your mail up at a Tel Aviv post office….
    You know, the PLA doesn’t look very diverse! Is THAT why they are our enemies? Not that they are a brutal communist regime, but that they aren’t celebrating diversity! B*stards! And did I see Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Hillary in the reviewing stand in that parade?
    And Bryan White: I suppose I should refrain from backing the Second Amendment. Should I also give up my First Amendment rights, too? I mean, who needs religion when Government is the almighty? Any other rights you disapprove of?

  29. August 12, 2009 2:27 pm

    federale86

    Radical muslims allied with Mexico and China would have been more realistic.

  30. August 12, 2009 4:13 pm

    Bryan White

    UltimaRatioRegis: IT’S A FUCKING MOVIE YOU RETARD!! Check your constitutional outrage at the god damn door. I really don’t care. I love the constitution. It’s really compelling reading but you know something? It’s my fucking website so you can take your objections to my objections and cram them up your ass.

    It’s against my personal policy to close comments for an article on my site but the tone of the discussion around the remake of Red Fucking Dawn has gotten nasty and far more political than it needs to be. The villains in this movie could be COBRA for all I care and it wouldn’t change the fact that it’s a goofy teen fantasy. You want talk about who in this world would make a realistic enemy for The Wolverines, let’s start with how fucking dumb the notion is in the first place that a handful of teenagers armed with hunting rifles could stave off a trained army equipped with real military hardware. In real 1984 where the Soviet Union and Cuba invaded Colorado, those kids would have most likely frozen to death or starved before they got to put bullet one in a Soviet soldier.

    So all of you people rushing this article from the gun/birthers/white supremacy websites need to cool it. I’m sure you all are coming from threads on this forum or that where you’re having a good laugh about how you have the commie faggot that runs Cinema Suicide in a tiff because of your comments but you’re going to have to keep the discussion there because this article is moments away from being closed out and removed.

    I swear, being invaded by The National Review is worse than being invaded by 4Chan.

  31. August 12, 2009 4:20 pm

    Krysha Syrin

    Bryan- Don’t let all the naysayers and warmongers get to you.

    This is a great review and you make a good point.

    While I am against remakes as a whole, I always try to save my final judgment until I actually view the whole film. It’ll be an interesting to see the final product and how they’ve changed it from the original.

    To all commenters: Seriously, didn’t you learn anything when you were kids? If you can’t say something nice, than just shut the fuck up, okay? No one wants to hear it.

  32. August 12, 2009 5:14 pm

    Richard Griffin

    Gentlemen…. relax your sphincters!

    Red Dawn is, was, and always will be a comic book. It’s not be taken seriously in the least. Without the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia…. it’s a seriously goofy movie. Fun, yes. But also completely wacky. For people like us, it was an action-packed thrill ride. For wacko gun nuts, it’s masturbation material.

    Plus, most of these right-wing mouth breathers who scream in joy about the movie would last about 10 seconds if this country was actually invaded. They live in this beautiful Rambo/Death Wish fantasy land…. but chances are, if someone started shooting at them, they would collectively piss their pants and run screaming to their mothers.

  33. August 12, 2009 8:16 pm

    Joe

    I would rather they had a plot similar to the tv show Jericho that got taken off the air. Nuclear explosions hit every major city in the US and no one knows who did it. people start turning on eachother, people start invading eachothers towns, mysterious paramilitary group hunts down main characters. In the end US govt is behind it all. I think it would be a much more interesting film if the wolverines were faced with an unknown enemy.

  34. August 13, 2009 9:19 am

    nise

    wooo…i like mean bryan

  35. August 13, 2009 8:51 pm

    Red Dawn Remake | KillerFilm

    [...] SOURCES: Cinema Blend, Hollywood Reporter, Yahoo! Movies, Beyond Hollywood & Cinema Suicide [...]

  36. August 15, 2009 4:02 pm

    MALACHE

    Sources on a discussion thread…that’s new!!

    But anyway… I agree with a few different angles here. First one being that Red Dawn is basically a comic book fantasy for the reasons that Bryan stated above. Untrained well….kids with hunting rifles wouldn’t have a shot in the dark against a well trained military force, whether they be Russian, Chinese, or Iraqi so that point is moot.

    And to the “Gun nuts” that came in here and made this debate interesting?? IT’S A MOVIE!! 24 FRAMES OF PLASTIC A SECOND IN FRONT OF A FUCKING LIGHT BULB!!!

    :::STEPS OFF OF HIS SOAPBOX:::

    Secondly I agree with Krysha Syrin .
    “While I am against remakes as a whole, I always try to save my final judgment until I actually view the whole film. It’ll be an interesting to see the final product and how they’ve changed it from the original.”

    A couple of cases in point here. Let’s face it, I would not be off base if I said The Texas Chainsaw remake really really sucked balls!! While the Friday the 13th Remake was actually SHOCKINGLY good considering that it was made by the same people. And I personally still have hopes for the Nightmare Remake being ok considering that I am a fan of that series the most of the 3.

    So people, I know we are all a fan of certain things, whether they be guns and wife beating or Escapism entertainment and gore fests. Let’s just agree to disagree and crawl back to our respective caves ok?

  37. August 17, 2009 10:15 pm

    LFC

    Bryan, you are a dumbass. Its morons like yourself who continue to oversee that the gene pool will overcrowd with my baby’s daddy’s mama type losers. Obviously, you either have a small dick to account for your babbling ignorance. And from your posts, it seems you are the one with outrage, especially with this “shove it up the ass” thing.
    I suppose you would think that Ryan Seacrest should play lead?

    I sleep well at night, on my 16-acres, my 9 rifles, 5 shotguns, 3 submachine guns, 5 pistols, dog, bible, and 4-wheel drive.

  38. August 18, 2009 8:43 am

    nise

    wow…this dude sounds like he is also missing teeth, hitting his wife and fucking his dog. But wait let me guess, he did get his GED, you go Dude! dont worry im sure your jesus still loves you

  39. August 18, 2009 8:47 am

    Bryan White

    Thanks for coming by, LFC. I’m not a religious man but I’m praying to god right now that you shoot yourself in the dick with one of your numerous firearms.

  40. August 18, 2009 1:31 pm

    Steve Braincrayon

    For some reason LFC forgot to write “compound” after 16-acres. I feel he also failed to mention “Turner Diaries” after Bible and probably meant to fit “child brides” and “14/88″ somewhere in there.

  41. August 20, 2009 4:37 pm

    Keith

    CHINA SHOULD BE THE INVADER IN THE REMAKE.
    THEY HAVE THE LARGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD, WITH LARGE NUMBERS OF RESERVES. THEY ARE COMMUNIST. THEIR FLAG IS RED, SORT OF LIKE THE SOVIET UNIONS WAS. THEY DO LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES AS AN ENEMY.
    DON’T FOOL YOURSELF INTO THINKING THEY DON’T. THEY HATE THE US, BUT THEY WILL TAKE US MONEY IF US IS STUPID ENOUGH TO GIVE IT TO THEM.( WHICH MANY US BUSINESS HAVE AND CONTINUE TO DO).
    CHINA IS THE BIGGEST CONVENTIONAL WAR THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES. DESPITE THE OPINIONS OF THOSE WHO THINK OTHERWISE. CHINAS MILITARY NUMBERS WOULD POSE A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR US FORCES. THE 1ST KOREAN WAR PROVED THIS. ASK KOREAN WAR VETS.
    CHINA IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE FOR THIS FICTIONAL FILM, WHY BECAUSE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. CHINAS MILITARY IS STRONG. THOSE WHO THINK CHINA IS WEAK. YOU ARE MISTAKEN.

  42. August 21, 2009 6:02 pm

    5live5

    Don’t you know that that’s the thing now? remake all the old movies because it doesn’t take any creativity! The storyline is already there! Change it just a little and bam you have a movie. If it tanks, get em’ in the DVD and blue ray sales!!! Anything for a buck!! !!

  43. August 27, 2009 9:26 am

    Rich I

    I’m with many of you. I’m excited about the movie, but it better not just be the main character (who’s supposedly an Iraq vet) suffering from PTSD and as a result make me walk away from the movie blaming George Bush for the Iraq war. Now, if he uses his experience from Iraq (against insurgents) and starts IED’ing Chinese columns in the streets of Detroit, I’m all about it!

    No political agenda or underlying meaning, keep it just like the last one: scare us and let it just be simple entertainment, nothing more.

  44. September 1, 2009 1:19 am

    tom 8545

    Hey, I want to see this movie as real as possible for money I am paying!!
    But one Big question!! How could the Chinese invade America??
    Half of their tanks are from Korean war, Yep, they have the largest army in world but…..they have a big butt too, by the time they bring the army in pacific the USN would have made the biggest live shooting practice, plus if the surviving one reach the main land average American who own a few dozen arms and thousand rounds would have done the job. There Navy, won’t even last for a week in a fight most of them are old junk and they seem to love it, USN have 100+ nuclear sub and Chinese has one cardiac problem SSBN and SSN junk and of course their Song class.. seem to have soar throat.. and which no more then implant breast in a soviet era sub.And their air force….Is there any aircraft in their inventory that could reach America forget Carrying the troop? Most of them are propeller driven in age of jet hahaha…. I wonder how they call pull it out……
    I heard the movie is shot in Michigan?? Is this meant they have conquer the main land?? What heck like the old flick, few wolverine is good enough to kick million of Chinese sitting duck, last one has brain this must have forgot to bring with them!
    Final comment after the movie.

  45. September 1, 2009 3:56 pm

    dave

    im putting together a listing of filming locations for Red Dawn 2, as the come in.
    if anyone has any filming information or pictures come to beforethetrailer.com

  46. September 2, 2009 12:44 am

    Mark Gregory,, Koernke

    Screen goes black as music rises. Words flash up on screen. “American dollar fails in last gasp attempt to prop it up by foriegn controling banks” “China and other IMF banks demmand payment for out stripped US bonds that are worthless.” “Mexican military and Chinese forces stand at the border of Mexico and US waiting to be given the go ahead to foreclose on USA” “Treason from Washington DC becomes obvious as more foriegn troops are brought into the USA” Fade from Black to clouds rolling by camera in semi dawn light. Credits and title pass. Scene change to a COSCO container area. American inspectors lie dead on the ground next to a large box container that is being opened by men of Chinese origin. Out of the container combat ready troops emerge kitted out and armed. Camera rises to show hundreds of containers disgorging thousands more along with light armored vehicles and nmuch more. Fade to other ports of entry all across the coastline of the USA where more of same is happening. Fade to Washington where Osamabamadingsdong is laughing insanely as he touches a glass with the Chinese and Isreali ambasadores while being told the plan is in motion. Fade to school etc…..etc.etc. Libertytreeradio on youtube for more cooool stuff. MGK/GDW!

  47. September 3, 2009 6:52 pm

    August Monthly Racism Round-Up: « BicoastalBitchin’s Weblog

    [...] switching out the now harmless Ruskies for the currently most hated/dangerous country out there. China? Really? Carl Ellsworth, the screenwriter, from a Red Dawn Wiki [...]

  48. September 14, 2009 9:32 pm

    Dan

    Love the review but when you stated there is no real threat from the Chinese I would have to dis agree. I think China is perfect for this movie. They are not are friends…Ask anyone who serves in the military or works in the intelligence fields.

  49. September 15, 2009 11:40 pm

    Wolverines4Ever

    People have pointed out a lot of holes in China being able to mount a plausible invasion, but perhaps the only flaw is the time period. Today, the Chinese are the foremost instigator of state sponsored cyber-attacks and espionage against the US; this is a fact, as is the fact that the Chinese are successfully stealing many US military and corporate secrets – hence they need not innovate or engage in costly R+D, they can use our own research to expose our weaknesses and leapfrog in some areas. In addition, China is the largest holder of US Treasury bonds, holding some $700B….we borrow from China to spend more, much of which fuels Chinese manufacturing and their economy all the while becoming more beholden to them as our debt increases and industries decline; this is a fact, and this means they can wield a tremendous amount of influence on US policy and response to actions. Forget the movie for a second – the above facts suggest that any American who doesn’t think that China is a threat and at best a worthy competitor today is deluding themselves.

    Now assume that this cycle goes unbroken for another 25 years; the US position would continue to comparatively decline while China ascends…bear in mind that China has only achieved its current prosperity over the past 14 years or so after Clinton opened trade with them. Perhaps the US will then wake up and take steps to protect its remaining industries (as Obama took a baby step toward this week with the imported tire tariffs) which sparks a hostile trade war, or perhaps the US defaults on its debts to China and China takes aggressive measures to acquire assets to cover the debt. Decades of espionage have exposed our secrets that can be exploited, coupled with booming Chinese capabilities, massive population/armed forces, and a desire to be #1 (which they have now). If all of this doesn’t make China a plausible candidate for the enemy in this movie, I’m not sure what does…the scary thing is that it is all too possible if we don’t take steps to keep pace. The US is number 1 not because it’s the US; it’s because we’ve worked hard. The Cold War served a purpose…we kept an eye on our enemy and met them toe to toe. Today’s world is far more insidious…I’ll repeat once again that China is our largest creditor, and they are a Communist nation! Can you imagine us hitting the Russians up for a loan in 1980? We have lost sight of what is required to remain a super power…competition can be a good thing, and everyone is not our friend.

  50. September 17, 2009 8:47 pm

    Larry

    CHINA as the invader is perfect. How could China invade? Well for a movie, i’d have CHINA use a mix of cyberwarfare to shut down the US defense and power grids, shoot missles into space and destroy US satellites, and maybe selective small scale nuke strikes(in the original the Soviets nuked WashingtonDC, Omaha, K.City, bringing communications to a halt) with this done the Chinese invasion forces move in, the Chinese and Russian Naval + Air forces collaborate and create all kinds of chaos. thousands of Chinese paratroopers are seen dropping from the skies into several american cities and towns. and all hell breaks loose. parts of the US are overun and occupied by Chinese and Russian forces. US forces with time are able to regroup and check the advancing Chinese and Russians. The battle lines are drawn. And for a time its a stalemate. Our Wolverines along with other American civilians armed with guns caught behind enemy lines create trouble time and time again for the enemy. With time the US forces are able to regain all ground lost to the invaders, the Russians and Chinese make a hasty retreat and beg for a cease in hostilities. Only 2 of the Wolverines survive but they never forget the sacrifice of their friends, their families, who gave their lives that this nation(USA) shall not perish from the earth.
    WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!
    I hope the remake is dedicated to the memory of Patrick Swayze.
    RIP We Will Never Forget You Pat.

  51. September 20, 2009 8:51 pm

    RIPizzo

    September 2009
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ripizzo/sets/72157622407293986/
    Pictures from some of the filming in Mount Clemens, MI

  52. September 21, 2009 8:52 pm

    Kenny

    The Chinese are coming. September 24th, 2010

  53. September 26, 2009 9:55 pm

    Clark

    ok having been to the RedDawn2010.com website so far the filming looks pretty good. just wondering if anyone in the filming areas has seen any other military type vehicles besides the hummer jeeps, like tanks etc. I mean there has to be tanks in this movie. The original had them, not many but it had them. seeing enemy tanks in an american town would look good on the big-screen. It adds atmosphere. Some armored vehicles with machine guns is also a must, i mean this is an invasion force. it needs to look intimidating. if anyone has any word or pictures let everyone know via http://www.Reddawn2010.com website.

  54. September 30, 2009 12:02 am

    ChinaDude

    Hi I am Chinese, and thanks for all the paranoia, racist rant, stereotyping, and hate mongering in all these commends. It is a just a movie, kids, for the love of our great Chairman Mao! :D
    Yes we do spy on you, and thats because you guys spend 10x more spying on us. What can I say, I just love playing peeping Tom on naked American girls, so I hack in your DOD government computers to steal all the child porn your government has downloaded.
    Get a life – signed: Chinaman.

  55. October 13, 2009 3:16 pm

    bob

    Well Im sure it will be a very entertaining film, however, putting China in the same league as the USSR is kind of goofy I think. I mean last I checked China and the US had pretty good relations, maybe not the best but far from US/Soviet relations. As one of you pointed out in the first movie China was mentioned as a US ally. Personally I would have rather seen someone else. I mean a good example would be what the new Call of Duty games did with a neo-Soviet lead coalition of radicals and managed to pull a cool invasion type scenario off pretty well.

  56. October 20, 2009 10:42 pm

    assclown

    well well well!
    u bunch of fucking fanboy fucks!
    i personally like the whole china thing so blow me!
    they should have had me play the lead character! instant 100 million opening day!
    i think russia is a country on the verge of collapse any way
    collapse from sucking cock anyway!

  57. November 14, 2009 5:01 am

    barak bin snoozin

    Bryan writes;
    “let’s start with how fucking dumb the notion is in the first place that a handful of teenagers armed with hunting rifles could stave off a trained army equipped with real military hardware. In real 1984 where the Soviet Union and Cuba invaded Colorado, those kids would have most likely frozen to death or starved before they got to put bullet one in a Soviet soldier. ”

    gee, that’s clever Bryan. considering that during the filming of the first red dawn
    14-15 y old boys where fending off soviet attacks in Afghanistan . and currently
    many teens our giving our men a hard time in the same afghanistan dispite “military hardware” . you clearly know nothing of asymetrical warfare .
    my vote is for the chinese angle though sprinkled with mexican paramilitary gangs.

    now go back to your “inconvenient truth” DVD and stick to THAT fairy tale .

  58. November 14, 2009 2:13 pm

    nise

    chinadude makes me laugh.

  59. November 18, 2009 9:10 am

    Steve Braincrayon

    barak bin snoozin wrote:
    “gee, that’s clever Bryan. considering that during the filming of the first red dawn
    14-15 y old boys where fending off soviet attacks in Afghanistan . and currently
    many teens our giving our men a hard time in the same afghanistan dispite “military hardware” . you clearly know nothing of asymetrical warfare .
    my vote is for the chinese angle though sprinkled with mexican paramilitary gangs.

    now go back to your “inconvenient truth” DVD and stick to THAT fairy tale .”

    What you have also failed to consider is that those young afghani boys have grown up in a war torn nation their entire lives. They most likely knew how to fire an AK-47 and plant a land mine before they could read. Much different upbringing than some middle-class, All American white boys whose hardest struggle in life was getting into the State championship.

    Now go back to your “Turner Diaries” and clean your semi-automatic weapons,

  60. December 21, 2009 7:02 pm

    DaMan

    everything you said sound right litino review guy, but if you think that a war with china is not plausible or likely you have your head in the sand. i hope they do it well and flesh the script out as most of the reviewers have requested.

  61. December 22, 2009 5:16 am

    Chow

    Ahhh!!!! What’s wrong with some movie people! I am Chinese and I absolutely do not want to attack America. I have a million reasons of not wanting a war, and it starts with things like : my current girlfriend is American, one of my ex-girlfriends is American, I own properties in America, I invested some of my money in American firms, I do some business with America, I like peace, I do not like violence, I eat giant and disgusting IHOP meals, I do like football, and most importantly, I am a human being! And for the record, I am not an immigrant and I live in China, with no green card and no American passport.

  62. December 22, 2009 11:37 am

    me

    why couldnt they remake toy soldiers? less psychos like this talking about killing people…more hot boys with their shirts off.

  63. December 23, 2009 7:22 pm

    jphilly

    I think doing a remake is the highest honor a movie can get, it retells and old story with new technology. And i agree with switching china to the invading forces. Because they never should have been our allies in the first movie, it didnt make any sense and I always thought it was a mistake, probably a political decision at the time of production. In reality china would most certainly be allied with the communists ofcourse. Any notion of “they would be our allies because america is an investment for them” is complete nonsense for a list of reasons.
    personnally I would like to see a remake of red dawn that is set in modern times and involving china, russia, iran, ect…and has new characters that are more diverse. It should also be set in an urban area, not some nowhere town that doesnt really have strategic value anyways. Last bt not least i would just like to agree with other posters who said this story is about the human aspect of the invasian, nd thats the way the remake should be told. The original was considered the bloddiest movie to date when it was released. But it still told a good story, and thats what made it a classic. The last thing I want to see is a remake of red dawn turn into a plotless bloodblath with no story.

  64. February 21, 2010 9:50 pm

    Will

    My favourite phase in the movie “Lets kill some chinese”. I can see some white guys going to do just that after watching the movies, then another racist riot will break out, chinese shop got burn, chinese boy being lynched, chinese girls being raped, chinese grandma and grandpa being hacked to pieces. Then the chinese army has a real recent to attack.
    Be prepare everyone! Arm yourself to your teeth, white and yellow and black too, real fun is comming.

  65. February 21, 2010 9:52 pm

    Bryan White

    This is the stupidest comment that has ever been posted to my site and that’s saying something. You’ve really outdone every fucking asshole in this thread with that comment. You’re not even an American, you fucking asshat!

  66. February 21, 2010 10:29 pm

    Will

    Welcome to the reality! Didn’t you say It is only a fun and a absurb movie? So is killing iraqi woman and children when you cowardly hiding in the cinema.
    “Movies don’t kill people, only people kill people”? Yea right!
    You want the truth? No you don’t, you can’t handle the truth. Grow up tommy boy!

  67. February 22, 2010 6:11 pm

    me

    wow, that giant cuntfart is full of rage huh tommy boy?

  68. February 26, 2010 5:58 pm

    Mikey D

    North Korea isn’t plausible because they can’t really project their forces beyond the Korean Peninsula. China is much more realistic.

  69. May 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    LED

    Just the people of the USA buy 4.5 million of the 8 million new manufactured firearms per year. We also import used guns from around the world. People own tanks, and cannon, .50 cal rifles.

    sorry, china wouldn’t even be able to take california (I bet they can take San Fran though).

  70. May 17, 2010 10:12 pm

    Bryan White

    Yeah! Cuz they got all those faggy librulz, rite?

    Seriously, you fucking assholes… who gives a fuck?

  71. June 7, 2010 7:35 am

    boosh

    bryan white ur a faggy liberal…

  72. June 7, 2010 7:41 am

    boosh

    who the fuck watches 70s b flicks about motorcycle gangs, no one liked them then and nobody likes them now…maybe if pam grier was in it, but wait shes not..have fun jacking off and cumming on ur balls

  73. June 8, 2010 8:51 am

    Bryan White

    I totally am. Suck it, you nazi fucks!

  74. July 6, 2010 4:57 am

    boosh

    of course you are you crazy drunk pedestrian….you chicom doucher…go be gay

  75. July 6, 2010 5:05 am

    boosh

    by the way…burn in hell with the kennedy bros you massachusetts elitist asshole

  76. July 13, 2010 5:29 pm

    DoBravery

    With all the crappy movies out there, might as well do a remake.
    Some plot thoughts. . .
    If China has a partial ally in Russia, they don’t have to cross the entire Pacific, just the Bering Strait.
    The most capable US soldiers/forces are overseas. A couple of nukes here and there, and all those assets are stranded in Asia.
    The US power grid is so frigging vulnerable.
    N Korea would be an excellent trap to sucker in US forces then nuke the whole peninsula.
    Yes the gun-toting US could harass an invading army indefinitely, but it takes an army to stop an army–see US Revolutionary War.
    Just because you live in the city, don’t assume people can’t survive without amenities, nor use firearms effectively.
    Just because you live in the rural, don’t assume you can stop a mechanized army with an AR-15 and 1k rounds.

    Look at our society. If our government and economy became a mess, I think you’d get a lot of people to jump on an economically strong China bandwagon.

    You all think HS rebels are unrealistic when most majors wars are fought by people barely in their 20′s. In fact the world is covered by younger children warriors today.

    In ’84, the Soviets called our bluff after a 1st strike. It will be interesting to see what 2010 does–as all it takes is one US missile submarine to ruin China’s day.

    Last thought. . . If Red Dawn’84 was unrealistic, it was because it was violent and destructive enough (you have to realize they nuked all major US cities). Today’s gen just doesn’t realize how close we were to ruining everything during the Cold War.


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